Is there a premium cat food as good as Hill’s d/m?

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My cat needs to lose weight. The vet recommended Hill’s d/m but I’m concerned that it might not be the best food for her. I’ve heard and read some not-so-good things about Hill’s products. I have read a lot of positive things about Blue Buffalo and also Wellness. Is either of these as good as the prescription Hill’s, or better? Also, which would be appropriate for weight loss? She has no health problems other than being overweight (i.e., no diabetes, chronic illness, skin issues, nothing) as per her annual checkup this month. She just isn’t losing weight. She had very poor nutrition in addition to physical abuse before I rescued her. She was fed a diet of dog food, and then only what she could get away from the dog in the household, and I’m wondering if this messed up her metabolism at all.

Cost for the food isn’t an issue. If I couldn’t afford to feed her right, I wouldn’t have her.

It is my experience that Eukanuba’s Veterinary Diet line is higher quality food than Hill’s. But it is also my experience that truly premium foods such as Blue Buffalo and Wellness are even higher quality. Cats are obligate carnivores. They need to eat animal flesh to nourish their bodies. They do not process grains and other plant matter properly. Looking at the ingredients lists on both the canned and dry forms of the m/d weight control diet I see a number of plant-based ingredients that are truly not helpful either for any cat to eat, or for any cat with a weight problem or diabetes. Please for the love of your cat, go with Blue Buffalo or Wellness. I also encourage you to switch from dry to canned, if you are feeding dry right now. It has no benefits for the teeth as it used to be thought. And it is higher in carbs than the dry. By its very nature, even the best quality kibble has to have a certain amount of starch in it to get that crunchy consistency. This can be important for a cat’s weight loss because with carbs comes the need for insulin for the body to process the carbs. Insulin, in addition to regulating the body’s use of sugars (i.e. what all carbs break down into), also interferes with fat cells. In the presence of insulin, fat cells store fat. It is only in the absence of insulin that fat cells can release fatty acids to be burned as energy. The only weight loss advantage in a high quality kibble over high quality wet food, is that you could put her meals in one of those treat-dispensing toys, and make her work for it. http://www.amazon.com/Multivet-Slimcat-Cat-Feeder-Green/dp/B001D1BNFG I have this kind, and put just a tiny amount of kibble in them each day for my cats (their main diet is canned food). But if switching to a canned diet is not going to work, then this might become very useful.

Because the higher quality foods have markedly fewer fillers, cats can be more satisfied eating much smaller portions. I know when I was using a Eukanuba prescription canned food, I would feed one cat half a 5.5 oz can twice daily. With brands such as Wellness, they are ok with 1/4 of a 5.5 oz can twice daily. They also get 1/8 c. kibble in their treat balls, or for variety, I will sometimes give them a few bites of plain cooked beef. Before I switched them to canned food, they were getting 1/4 c. of Felidae kibble twice daily - down from 1/2 c. Purina One twice daily. Because your cat has a history of poor nutrition, and because it is dangerous to reduce an obese cat’s portions too quickly due to the dangers of hepatic lipidosis, I would advise first making the change from Hill’s to the Blue Buffalo and/or Wellness gradually, mixing a little bit of the new with the old, leaving the portions sizes the same. Every week, increase the proportion of new just a bit. This will help get her body used to the higher quality food without suffering digestive upset. Also, sometimes cats will act like kids who demand McDonalds at every meal instead of decent home-cooked food. It’s kind of addicting, and it takes a while for tastes to adjust. So be patient and be persistent. Once the gradual change in foods has been completed, she may well show signs of being satisfied with eating significantly less on her own. But then again, with her history of poor nutrition, she may need to continue eating those larger portions of more nourishing foods for a time so that her body can catch up. But after a while, you can gradually start reducing the portions that you feed her. Do this very gradually - it is worth consulting your veterinarian about this, as hepatic lipidosis can be deadly http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=1+1327&aid=217

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Cat dry food recalled now ? please confirm?

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I give my cats Natural balance dry cat food and this is what the news on the internet is saying " Natural Balance said it was recalling all its Venison and Brown Rice canned and bagged dog foods, its Venison and Brown Rice dog treats and its Venison and Green Pea dry cat food.

Does this mean the ingredients in that cat dry food ??
Because I give them the "natural balance ultra premium cat food " so now i dont know if i should stop giving them that dry cat food ??
the information i read about this was on the msn website
If someone can please verify ?? thanks a lot !

Got this from their site. Ultra Premium was not involved.

But frankly - I’m a little concerned. From what I gathered yesterday, this rice protein was NOT listed as an ingredient in any of their foods on Friday or Saturday, or perhaps even through the weekend. It wasn’t until AFTER the recall went public that it turned up in their ingredients list!

They have claimed that this is something they’ve just recently added. Perhaps that’s true; perhaps they didn’t get around to upgrading their site. Or perhaps not.

I don’t know - I’m in something of the same boat. I feed the venison & green pea canned food. Both girls are fine, but I don’t have the luxury of choosing a different good food for them. And I am not going to give them Friskies!

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE — Pacoima, CA — April 17, 2007– Natural Balance, Pacoima, CA, is issuing a voluntary nationwide recall for all of its Venison dog products and the dry Venison cat food only, regardless of date codes. The recalled products include Venison and Brown Rice canned and bagged dog foods, Venison and Brown Rice dog treats, and Venison and Green Pea dry cat food. Recent laboratory results show that the products contain melamine. We believe the source of the melamine is a rice protein concentrate. Natural Balance has confirmed this morning that some production batches of these products may contain melamine.

None of Natural Balance’s other dry formulas, none of our other canned or roll products and none of our other treats are involved with this voluntary recall.

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What is a premium canned cat food that ISN"T pate?

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I feed my 2 cats Newman’s own organics dry adult cat food.They drink freely from a Platinum Drinkwell water fountain,bottled water.However, I like to treat them once or twice a week with a canned cat food split between the two.They are rescues. A 4&1/2 Norwegian Forest cat mix…15&1/2 lbs. & a 3&1/2 year old mackeral tabby..10 lbs.
They were just to the vet for their yearly checkups & shots & were fine,but the Wegie had a little tarter buildup.I groom them constantly as the Wegie throws up hairballs & they won’t take ANY hairball formula.The cooler than normal summer made both of them shed all season long,which is odd for WI weather.
I went to a specialty pet food store & what they thought wasn’t pate was.Neither cat will eat any in pate form so I’ve been buying Fancy feast elegant Medleys. ANY HELP?

Wellness makes a pouch food that is slices in broth. Weruva is shredded chicken (and some are fish). Merrick (not the Before Grain) makes a chuncky (sort of) food in lots of flavors, and all of them are very popular here. Blue Buffalo Healthy Selects is very similar to the elagant Medleys but much better ingredients. Halo makes one that looks a lot like human stew - mine won’t touch it but lots of people claim their cats love it. Try some of these - they are all premium foods, no by products in any of them. Easiest to find will be the Wellness pouches and the Blue Buffalo. Merrick is at many of the smaller chain or private pet stores, but the Weruva can be tough to find.

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How many mg of Phosphorus in wet cat food is acceptable?

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I can’t seem to find out how many mg of phosphorus is healthy for wet cat food. Many of the premium low-carb foods I’ve looked at seem to have high amounts. How many mg is safe? Thank you!
Thanks Seattle, but I think you misunderstood what I was asking. Exactly how many mg is SAFE/HEALTHY for a cat to eat daily?
Francine- is this just a guess, or do you have a source to back up your answer? Thanks

i think about .16 grams is normal

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Premium food compared to Friskies Sliced Beef?

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might may have cancer the vets are still trying to diagnose. she has become extremely picky with what she eats. i purchased 43 cans of cat food all different companies and flavors and opened each one until i found one she likes. The problem is the food she devours is not the healthiest one out that. I usually buy premium cat food. She is eating the sliced beef with gravy food by friskies. Do you know of any higher quality foods that are comparable to these in texture and flavor.. i thinks he likes the beef gravy. If my cat is sick i dont want to feed her a low quality food however if this is all she will eat i suppose it is better than nothing but anyone my real question is What premium food brands have a juicy gravy beef selection. She hates pate food. thank youuu.
sorry for all the spelling errors! i was in a hurry!

Wellness makes a pouch food that is slices in broth - maybe she’d like that? It’s very popular with my "chunks and gravy" eaters, but it contains no by-products, and no junk.

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premium cat food brands?

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Hello, I have ad kittens before always on premium diets in the past…..but I always bought small bags and now I am getting a new kitten after all this time healing from the loss of my cats.

I realized buying small bags comes out ALOT more expensive than just buying large bags! I would like to keep on varying their food (it’s easier with small bags) but in this economy it is hard, but at least i can afford premium cat food right? :) so i have to buy a big bag now.

anyways..what brands do you like most?
I have noticed almost every cat food bramd says it is wonderful for your cat even science diet says that but I heard it is not very good for cats or dogs…and my cats didn’t ever like science diet..what are other "premium" brands I should avoid?

I have tried Wellness, Evo, Halo, Solid Gold, Organix, Nutro, Science Diet (I don’t like Science Diet, Nutro is okay..nothing compared to wellness though!) I haven’t tried Eukanuba though..

Which one is your favorite to feed your kitten/cat? It doesn’t have to be any of those brands, that was just something jotted down.

Oh and one more thing please don’t forget to answer this if you can..

I came across petco’s website and found that food is categorized as 3 main sections:

"It’s all natural"
Organic
Hollistic

I guessing organic is good because organic things are premium most of the time…but why is it different than just all natural?

and was is holistic?!

THANKS SO MUCH RESPONSIBLE CAT OWNERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the terms natural and holistic are unregulated and meaningless. Even the cheap cat foods have "natural" versions - and they are still filled with cheap fillers like by-products and corn. Natural? Yes. Healthy? No. Organic is a term though that is regulated, and means grown without synthetic fertilizers and pesticides. It is not the same as healthy, for cats or humans. Organic potato chips are still potato chips. I once grabbed a container of organic dry cat food (back when I still fed dry) and the main ingredient was corn. Organic corn, but corn is not good for cats, organic or not. My point here is that you need to read the ingredients, and not rely on these kinds of terms to determine if you should buy it or not.

The main thing is what are the ingredients of the food. Does it contain real meat, or cheap by-products? You want to avoid by-products, that is a low-quality protein source and is all the scrap parts deemed unfit for human consumption (beaks, heads, feet, intestines, spinal chords, spleens, and even diseased and spoiled meat). Also avoid corn - cats derive little to no nutrition from it (they are carnivores and need meat!) as it’s added because it’s cheap, not because it’s good for cats. Price isn’t a good guide - Science Diet is very expensive, yet is mostly corn and by-products.

I feed a variety of premium foods here - mostly canned, as dry is now linked to such feline disorders as obesity, diabetes, constipation, urinary tract disorders, and kidney disease. The favorite foods here include Wellness (chicken, must be the chicken!), Merrick, Weruva, Blue Buffalo, and a few others thrown in for variety (Natural Balance, EVO, and Solid Gold). What little dry that is fed here is a mix of Wellness and EVO.

Enjoy your new kitten - they don’t stay babies long!

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What is the difference between dog/cat food and dog/cat treats?

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Why are there dog/cat treats that can only be given to pets a few times a day? Are they fattening? I was looking at some of the ingredients of a premium pet food and I was thinking: If pets love their food so much (assuming they do), couldn’t you just give them a grain of dog/cat food instead of a dog treat as a reward? Both have meat-like stuff in it, both satisfy the pet, and isn’t the pet food better for them?

Is there some specific component in dog/cat treats that make them so much more appealing than pet food AND makes them so bad for them that they can only be given treats a few times a day?

Cat food and treats have birds in them.
Dog food and treats have cats in them.

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Premium Cat Food - 16 oz

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Premium Cat Food - 16 oz

Top Kat Gourmet Formula Cat Food is formulated to meet the nutritional levels established by the AAFCO Cat Food Nutrient Profiles for all life stages of cats.

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